My C10 is Bent! Let's Fix it with A Better Way to Bend and Notch Tubing! Finnegan's Garage Ep.129

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For years Newbern and I have struggled to build rollcages without wasting a lot of time and tubing. Well, thanks to the recent purchase of some innovative tools and a few tips from a fellow NOsectionsr, we just leveled-up our cage game! In this video we'll demonstrate how to use the tool kit from
Centurial Tools www.centurialinc.com/tube-coping-tools
as we finish up the cage on my 1967 Chevrolet C10 sport truck. This is the truck with the 650hp supercharged Chevrolet Performance LT4 crate engine, the 6xdgearbox.com billet aluminum sequential manual transmission, the independent rear suspension, Forgeline 20-inch wheels and Mittler Bros hydraulically adjustable Hydroshox!
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Jarod Emahizer 5 timer siden

great work! a suggestion for next time: @23:39 when you are trying to calculate the height needed. Next time, try leaving the tube in place on top of the quick disconnect as it already was. You know the laser is in the center of the tube, take a measurement vertically from where the laser is to the center of your attachment panel on the truck, and that should be your distance needed in the tube to raise it high enough to connect the two properly. Since the tube is already at 90* (parallel to the chassis) and your quick disconnect was installed at 90* (perpendicular to the chassis) the only variable you have to solve for at that point is the needed height between the laser's dot and the center on your attachment pannel on the firewall. Seriously love, not trying to armchair engineering just thought it might save you some time in the future.

scott stanley 10 timer siden

Super video! I applauded for $2.00 👏

aXBlackDeathXa 10 timer siden

Mike I'd highly recommend looking into a universal electric steering rack. Not only can you adjust a setup like this to be more or less responsive with the turn of a knob but it also gives you power steering with just battery power - the vehicle doesn't have to be running! Check out a company called Turn One Steering or American Powertrain sells a kit now as well. Just throw a manual rack in there - add the power assist box - use any column you want BAM!

Robert Chaffee 10 timer siden

I like all the new fab tools you got and used on this project. keep up the great work.

batbat1156 12 timer siden

Great video i learn a lot.

John Gray 12 timer siden

Worm Man

Kris.Ivanovv 17 timer siden

Mike, you can use VOLVO 2004-2013 Volvo C70 C30 S40 electric power stearing pump. It is compact and work super.

KSR Performance & Fabrication 21 time siden

Hey Mike, when you are completing the last weld on a tube that "caps" the pipe, you now have expanding air rushing through the hole that you are welding up as the tube is heating up and the air inside of the tube is expanding and looking for a place to get out! To prevent this, drill a hole in your plate that will pass into the center of the tube. This is also good practice for roll cages. Drill a small hole in the tube that you are landing your next tube to, but do it so that the hole will be covered by the new tube that you are now welding to the project.

KSR Performance & Fabrication 21 time siden

Doh, just read the other commenters saying the same thing and you mentioning the vent hole. You are probably right about there being oil inside of the tube. Doesn't take much to make a nice weld turn ugly!

Vailos Quiet 22 timer siden

use a late 2000s mr2 eletric pump from the mr2 spider

camaross92 Dag siden

Could do some sheet metal inner fenders off the bars to the frame rail, maybe with some zeus clips lol. or dimple die some trusses for the 90°s.

Jim Henline Dag siden

Get yourself a lady that loves the smell of brakleen.

Centurial Inc Dag siden

Thanks for showing our tools. Good work gentlemen.

Skubasteve21 Dag siden

Couldn't you measure from the laser point/dot to the center point of the fish plate? Instead of trying to hold the piece up and level and take a measurement.

lewis abbott Dag siden

If your struggling for room or aftermarket options. You can get a electric power steering which goes on the steering column which maybe an idea for you.

Pana Giotis Dag siden

You boys need a Tapeboss!

Night Rider Dag siden

Look at Cooper Bugatti 240 hydraulic power steering set up don't know if it's something you would be interested in

ltseven Dag siden

You kids do nice work

Jwy2063 Dag siden

Gadget tools that actually work is awesome, good info 👍🏻,,, But with my 20 plus yrs of off-road cage, bumpers, rock sliders, etc fabing, another cool DIY tool is a 4'x3/8" break line, you can bend it to fit Many times over for exact angles and length (up to 4' , need longer get longer) ! Had to give my "2cents",,, AND YOU GUY ARE AWESOME 😎 LV THE CHANNEL !! AND at 12:03 GIT YA SAFETY GLASSES ON !!

Steven Paraone 2 dager siden

About time Letz Goo

Dead End Garage 2 dager siden

Check out electric power steering from a Prius. The motor is under dash out of sight.

B Doyle 2 dager siden

Look into late model mopar stuff for power steering, I worked on a 2012 challenger 5.7 that had an electric power steering pump, it still takes fluid but its electric over hydraulic

pgf202 2 dager siden

MR2's, Volvos, and possibly a newer Mini have power steering pumps that are driven with a motor so you can keep the rack the way it is and mount the pump where ever you want. My Race Shop LLC makes a programable controller for the MR2 pump if you go that route.

Dan L 2 dager siden

Now take and scratch those marks permanently into that cheater pipe for when the marker rubs off.

Cody Thomforde 2 dager siden

Toyota mr 2 has electric power steering that’s easy to modify

herculesrockafeller 2 dager siden

The Car Wizard did electric power steering from a Prius in Hoovie’s ‘GT 350’

JFK64 Kennedy 2 dager siden

quick way to find tube centerline, take combination sq, set blade of square to oa pipe diameter, yes diameter...put cast part of sq on top of pipe, blade down side, get blade end flat against table, flat surface and pull square down pipe, pushing blade hard against pipe, the blade will scratch pipe in center, and if need, can also mark top, exactly perpendicular, 90 deg. from 1st line

BMC Turbo and Fab 2 dager siden

23:30 mark, just point the laser to the centerline on the firewall and measure the distance to your target. You won’t have to try and hold the tube level and measure and keep it on target with the laser all at the same time 👍🏻

Zack Loftis 2 dager siden

MR2 power steering pump

Deck Ape 2 dager siden

When I turned 50 I realized that I didn't know as much as I did when I was 25. I enjoy your explanations, they are on the line of "You have brains but maybe didn't know this."

Tyler Lewis 2 dager siden

This was the exact video I was looking for, without looking for it.

mason shipman 2 dager siden

also, just do prius/saturn electric steering assist.

mason shipman 2 dager siden

come drive my volvo swapped datsun bullet side and then sponsor me thanks

Manny S 2 dager siden

I was all-in on the C10...but I think I'm loving (& wanting more of) the Cadillac content! #FSM

mindwreckRC 2 dager siden

look up ford/volvo electric steering pump. you can remote mount it anywhere. used in a lot of different hot rods and swaps.

Jack Hoff 3 dager siden

The weld on the tube didn't loose argon coverage, it blew out. You crated a sealed chamber and heated it up. when you seal up a tube like that you need to drill a small hole to relive the pressure.

Andy Yarnell 3 dager siden

Nice tube work

callthemall 3 dager siden

Drinking game: drink every time Mike says bend.

Evan Lesinski 3 dager siden

Another great channel is Bad Obsession Motorsport. They shoe horned a 4wd Toyota into a classic mini. They ended up using a electric over hydraulic Mercedes power steering pump.

dopesquatch 3 dager siden

The laser cant just fit in the tube without the profile part?

Rob Roten 3 dager siden

"Be really careful!" As he wipes down tubing with a rag soaked in acetone WITH HIS BARE HANDS!

steve goodwin 3 dager siden

Friendly observation... Guys when Mike celebrated at the end of the video I noticed a much better stereo sound. Was that because the video was taken with a different device?

W J 3 dager siden

Well, gr8 work guys and totally informative and simplified technical training for people who also have OCD to some degree!!! Oh, what's going on with the Cadillac?

JimPeachley 3 dager siden

Could the struts be tilted out toward the fenders to create more clearance around the engine? Maybe you could loosely hose clamp a ruler to the mock-up bend so it could be slid out to measure the needed additional length.

CertifiedCarNut 3 dager siden

This truck is the US version of Binky...

DEATHSTROKE 3 dager siden

Newbern's a gem bro, look after that guy.

sas86toy 3 dager siden

Need a weep hole in tube to allow excess gases to escape that’s why it blows out where your trying to finish the weld..... I would of put on backside of that firewall plate where it’ll be covered 🤙🏼

sas86toy 3 dager siden

lol just seen that’s already been commented ... oops but drilling a #30 hole behind firewall plate would be a good spot.

CoRy35744 3 dager siden

Holley makes an Accessory Drive System and Power Steering Add-On Kits for GM Gen V LT4's www.holley.com/products/engine/accessory_drive_brackets_and_kits/gm_gen_v_lt/

Shayne Gadsden 3 dager siden

with the power steering there are electric hydraulic options, instead of an engine drive hydraulic pump or electric power steer it's an electric power steer pump so the steering is still a hydraulic rack but the pump can just be mounted on the firewall or anywhere really the car i was looking at for here Australia was a 1998-2006 Holden Astra so i imagine a similar year GM compact hatch would have a similar unit

hq632 3 dager siden

In Australia it’s pretty popular to use a 1998 - 2008 Holden astra (not sure if GM sold them in US or not) power steering pump for conversions. they are an electric pump that can be plumbed into a hydraulic rack. Can also be remote mounted out of engine bay.

mk2vrt 3 dager siden

Hey jackals you can weld a t I've completely closed without drilling a whole Also mr2 and valvo have electric power steering in the trunk

Shaun Hensley 3 dager siden

Bro that's awesome watching you teach yourself tubing. I went through something similar with instrument tubing on my last major project and I know exactly your pain😂

Tim Johansson 3 dager siden

Hi Finnegan, Regarding your Power Steering trouble there are options. 1. Electric power steering. Use power steering rack and control unit from a Toyota Prius, easily installed and wired up. There's even a wire up on this at Hotrod Magazine website! Pros on using the Toyota electrical power steering is that they go in to failsafe mode with no CANBUS connected so they have a constant, fairly normal, power steering assist instead of variable with speed. GM units don't work AT ALL without CANBUS or a CANBUS simulator. 2. Electrical PS pump from a modern Volvo, like an S60 or similar. 12v supply and ground. That's it. Can be remote mounted.

Clayton Pereversoff 3 dager siden

What is that orange lathe in the back round?

Rhys Sutherland 3 dager siden

12 volt Dave with the safety squint. Made my day

Zach Jenkins 3 dager siden

hey guys. someone may have mentioned this already. It seems like instead of having Newbern hold that pipe up so that the laser shines on the crosshair for Finnegan to measure the base. Instead maybe you could just have left it in place then measured from the laser on the firewall up to the crosshair. just a thought in case next time you don't have any help around to assist. good video.

Farming - Firefighting and Fun with Big John 3 dager siden

I've watched his videos! You can learn a bunch from him! Nice work guys! Thanks for sharing!

Brian Timothy 3 dager siden

So apparently the Toyota MR2 had an electric power steering pump, as in a electric pump that creates the hydraulic pressure for your hydraulic power steering. I guess drifters use them, at the 17 minute mark of this video they mount one and talk about it. nosections.info/green/tI1yg4SoeXmd0cw/video.html

Stonewall78 3 dager siden

12:01 Whole wall of safety devices... just closes his eyes... #facepalm

James Fowler 3 dager siden

Awesome video

Steven Simmons 3 dager siden

Can watch this all day , but jobs and such.

Emmett Morrison 3 dager siden

Hey Mike quick tip about when you were welding the tube to the sandwich plate and the tube kinda blew out, this is due to pressure build up in the sealed tube, i learned about this from Joel from Overkill Racing Chassis, if you drill a small hole in the tube this allows pressure to vent and not blow out your weld. When you are done just spot weld the tube back and noone will know

William Lord 3 dager siden

You guys really need them kinda tools. Wow must me the exhaust fumes making them slow or something!

Henry Gillow-Wiles 3 dager siden

Instead of the cheater tube, get some bending software. Bend-Tech EZ is pretty good.

Matt : Adulting 4 dager siden

Acetone straight on the skin absorbs in quickly and attacks your liver. Use gloves

Random GearHead 4 dager siden

Electric power steering form a Saturn Vue. Epas on eBay has kits. Super easy and can control how much assist it gives with turn of a dial! They did it on fasterproms miata

tom moon 4 dager siden

Cotton kills the worm man! Wish I could move like that lol

Wompie 4 dager siden

Congratulations on the weight loss Newburn. I noticed.

Stanley Zitello 4 dager siden

Why did you place your end point for the front cage in the middle of nowhere on your frame? What is the primary load that the cage can support in that area of the frame? It is good for supporting a vertical load. What vertical load do you have in the front. Your springs. Why didn’t you brace the cage near the spring and damper mounting point of the front suspension?

Kyle Norman 4 dager siden

Toyota Prius Hoovie put one on hid 67 mustang restomod

Christopher Casale 4 dager siden

Volvo power steering pumps for the mid 2000s are electric hydraulic pumps, so you can use a hydraulic rack and put the pump wherever you want. Cooper Bogetti put one in his S13 drift car.

Dead Soul Walking 4 dager siden

Toyota MRS electric power steering pump

David Snow 4 dager siden

Thanks for lesson on bending tube. Keep up the good work and stay safe out there.

Raphael Scully 4 dager siden

why dont you guys also watch tim mcamis for some welding tips on his channel at Tim McAmis Performance Parts and for alternator try a mechman alternator

Bebetek Racing 4 dager siden

The weld blew out because u didn’t drill a hole in the flat metal..gas/ expansion needs a place to escape.always drill a small hole on all tubing intersecting each other..your roll cage must be vented.sounds dumb..and also.on your CHEATER TUBE.make a mark on the tube at the end of the die or wherever ur heart desires scribe it in so it’ll never disappear ,but ALWAYS go off of that mark..

Bebetek Racing 4 dager siden

The tube is round lol.anywhere u draw the straight line is the center🤣..I look for the straight line by placing the tube in a c channel.run the sharpie across the line on c channel..usually dom mild steeltubing already has a line in it..really good info here .good job

Panhead49EL 4 dager siden

Re: Cheater bar. Are those inch marks still an inch apart after they bend is made? Or does the outside of the bend stretch and the inside compress? I gots to know.

Austyn Northcutt 4 dager siden

What if you used a 15+ Silverado electric steering

George Tinc 4 dager siden

Just a thought, we need to have Cotton kick you in the balls for what you did to that truck to start with.

aSinisterKiid 4 dager siden

Lasers !!

T Nels 4 dager siden

Mike, I have a K frame off a 12 Mustang GT/CS with an electric power steering rack you can have. I'm in Minnesota, figure out shipping and its yours!

Ryan Rich 4 dager siden

Irony: Using a chop saw while squinting, and there are safety glasses hanging on the wall 2 feet from your face or 2 inches from your hand when you grab the saw handle. Genious. Nah just kidding, I do the same shit. Hahahaha.

guido heeling 4 dager siden

volvo also makes electric power steering pumps, a lot of youtubers use them, pumps seem to be reliable and all, but is is for shure something different than mechanical pumps!

guido heeling 4 dager siden

The Fabrication Series is an awsome channel, he is like a freaking teacher!

Derek MacKenzie 4 dager siden

DOM tube does have a seam. look from the inside. its hard to see but its there

Ron Peters 4 dager siden

Instead of holding the tube up so the laser points at the right spot on the firewall while making sure the angle is right, couldn't you have set the tube on the mount and measured from the laser dot on the firewall straight up to the target? It would seem more stable.

Taylor Peterson 4 dager siden

Finnegan, i didnt read through the comments, but in case you did not know, us swapped Datsun guys have ran the electric power steering setup out of a pontiac G6. I believe someone even makes a kit. I dont know if it will work for you, but its definetly worth a look. The electric motor mounts on the column typically under the dashboard, so no space taken in your engine bay

Richard Harvey 4 dager siden

Love the videos . Hope your around for a long time.great job delubing your tube. 🤣

Jerry Inman 4 dager siden

Get in touch with stangkilr productions here on NOsections or call killer performance in grain valley, mo for getting the steering working, he just put that engine in his teal truck series.

Keith Adams 4 dager siden

Kinda want to like the truck...but can't. Only flat bill, knee socks wearing bro's would

Jon Hill 4 dager siden

Support 👍

JD Ray 4 dager siden

Check out the Volvo s40 electric power steering kit if you don't want to go hydraulic

TheOystei 4 dager siden

Over in drifting a lot of guys use ps pump from mercedes A class, Opel Astra (think you got it as a Saturn) or mr2's. PSA 1.6 diesels also came with a electric pump some have started using due to availability over here.

Peter Spozetta 4 dager siden

Cleatus mate Jeremy from fasterproms put electric power steering on his s10 awd

T Nels 4 dager siden

If you have a flat steel workbench you can just drag a square along the side to mark the tangent.

John Grayson 4 dager siden

You may can talk with Hert from Hoonigan. I believe there was a video where he says his rx has an electric hydraulic steering system. Just a thought.

Jonathan Buck 4 dager siden

Mr2 Electric power steering works very well they use them in other applications like sand rails and other drag there’s a person that makes a kid I can’t remember the name off the top of my head where are you and gives you a dial indicator on the stiffness in hardness of the turn

the other finnegan 4 dager siden

great stuff

Martin Smith 4 dager siden

Why did you have to measure the other side, shouldn't it just mirror the first tube, which makes them identical with the exception of the firewall angle???